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Are there any possible crimes that could be committed in Haven?  Like, Ghost on Ghost crime?  Also, what about using his dedication to the Kingdom and his position as a Rimhor to do some shhhhhpying (for K.A.O.S or is it Control)?

Last edited by Fenixreign (2016-10-23 01:50:08)

How about some more annoyance crimes.  You had the party all night noise problem thing, how about someone in a crowd casting annoying but harmless spells that are irritating people so much the Rhimors are called in.  Childish prank type spells cast by young wizards for their own giggles but that no one is able to point a finger at and say he/she did it.  Illusionary nude placed on a woman walking down the street, tripping spells, remote pinching of women's bottoms whenever a certain man gets too close to them so he's always getting slapped.  Conjuring eggs out of the grocers bin of eggs so that they fall on peoples heads.  In a market full of wizards, who do you blame?  How do you catch them?  What kind of punishment is just?

On the earth side, how about some kind of corporate corruption?  Maybe a wizard or group of wizards are trying to manipulate one or more major corporations for their own gain.  Crimes could involve manipulating the stock market, manipulating the minds of corporate officials or employees in key positions of the company.

Smuggling of magical creatures to earth that are dangerous to normal humans.  Or creatures thought to be myth and legend being smuggled back into earth.  A pet shop with a few pixies or nymphs for sale?  Maybe a medusa?

As a Rimhor though, David could get a case that takes him to Vrudena or even one of the other nations and he could act as a go-between for Callamandia and a "resistance" or just do some spying while he is there legitimately.  Use it as an opportunity to gather intelligence since he can go invisible and shit.  His inherent magical abilities from being a demighost lend themselves VERY well to espionage. 

As for ghost on ghost crime, it could be something that he gets requested for from Lord Woodward and Penny.  Ghosts do have "stuff" as evidenced by the comb David gave Penny.  Perhaps a simple theft, or even an artifact someone (living) is using to control ghosts to do stuff.  It might give you a chance to flesh out more on what Haven is like (unless it is a total grey blob of nothingness, which is totally possible).

Update for October 23, 2016:

The Woodward Academy, Year 6, Chapter 12: May has been started.

Eric Storm

Okay, first off:  When he's invisible, he is in ghost form.  That is one of his two ghost forms.  ALL ghosts can turn invisible.

But no, using his potion to become ghostly would not circumvent ghost protection devices, because he IS a "ghost".  It doesn't make any difference whatsoever what form he's in.  He is a ghost.  The ghost prevention devices don't work on your "ghost form".  They work on ghosts.  David would not be able to enter anyplace with GPDs, no matter whether he was solid, liquid, or gas.  (Yes, that's a joke.)

If they were going to attempt this sort of espionage, they would simply find real ghosts willing to do the job.  (This would take quite a while, but they'd probably find a few eventually.)

And David is not a military officer.  He's a cop.  You're asking Joe Friday to become James Bond.  (Not a good analogy, because Bond is not really a "spy".  He's a covert operative.  Spies try NOT to be noticed...)

Eric Storm

"Physically substantial" may be misleading... though I have used the term, so that would be my fault.  While he can physically interact with things, he's still not really "there".  Some ghosts are capable of this same physical interaction.

And David's existence is far more complicated than "spirit bound into a meat suit"... In fact, he could be more looked at as a meat suit wrapped in a ghost, because his spirit self carries his physical self within it.

In simplest terms, a GPD prevents a ghost-ish entity from crossing its barrier, no matter its form.

Now you can ask yourself why they're not hiring fairies as spies, since GPDs don't work on fairies...

Eric Storm

While it is an option, I mentioned at some point that Rimohrs tend to deal with issues among their own race, to help the masses feel more comfortable.  (elves having the rule of law imposed on them by human Rimohrs would feel rather offended, thus Elven Rimohrs are used, instead.)

Which is not to say he couldn't handle a non-human issue.  Just that this is why it doesn't come up very often.  He did deal with that river troll...

And, of course, there's not really a reason that any of the previously mentioned ideas could not be adapted to a non-human species, so...

Eric Storm

Sounds interesting.  Thanks for the idea.

Eric Storm

Okay, there is little likelihood that a case starting in NE Callamandia would manage to wind up in a small Illinois city unless it directly involved David to begin with. And Jenny Bishop is very unlikely to still be in Eureka, IL.  She was going off to NYU, which strongly implies she wants to get the hell OUT of Eureka.  It's pretty unlikely she'd come back to stay after she graduated.

That said, David will be confronted by his past before the series is over.

As to him being "specifically requested"... why would he be?  As a Rimohr, there's not really anything unique about him.  And there would be no reason for him to be summoned to handle the wood nymph issue, even if it was his home town.  It's someone else's district.  Eureka, IL (a fictionalized version of a town that is a suburb of Peoria... I mean, c'mon, a SUBURB of PEORIA?????) is SW of Chicago.  Chicago sits about where Erle is in Dugerra.  LOOOONG way from Bolmont.  Probably a district in-between the Bolmont District and the Erle District.

Eric Storm

Update for November 22, 2016:

I've started writing again.  WAY6-12 is nearly 10,000 words at this point.  I should have it finished in time to meet the release schedule.  I cannot guarantee it will have time to be reviewed first.

I just received the first hard copy version of WAY1 from the printer.  Things did not go as desired or expected.  I will have to find a way to fix things.  That may involve finding a new printer, so this project is still up in the air.

Eric Storm

Take care of Keeshaba.  If it doesn't get out for 2 weeks, it doesn't matter.  Keeshaba's health is magnitudes more important and you being there is just slightly less important than that.

I don't want to give the wrong impression: Keeshaba's is having an outpatient procedure, and she'll be home (and back in bed... maybe both of us...) later today.  (God, I hate mornings...  Sunrise is when you go to BED, not when you get up, guarddammit!)

I do thank you both for your thoughts, however.

Eric Storm