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Thank you for the thought, but I sincerely doubt it will come to pass.  The older I get, the more pain I end up being in.  I have bad knees, a problem in my back, tendinitis in both elbows, acid reflux, bad teeth, sinus issues, possibly migraines of an unusual type...  Generally speaking, I'm the sickest healthy person I know.  (I call myself healthy only because most of my lab work comes back in the normal range.)

The random pains I feel are neither joint-related nor muscular... they never occur in joints, and the pain is never big enough to encompass a muscle.  The biggest ones I suffer of this variety are those that occur in the middle of a finger, and then it seems to circle the entire finger.  Otherwise, they're basically pinpoint pains.  They usually last for a few hours... maybe a day, at most.  They appear randomly, and disappear randomly.  *shrugs*  They've never been something I couldn't live with... and apparently, I'm gonna have to live with them.

I do appreciate your well-wishes, though.

Eric Storm

*snort*  The rheumatologist said, "Come back when you have some symptoms."  He was mainly concerned with lupus, given my blood work.  (Although anyone who watched House knows, "IT'S NEVER LUPUS!"    )

Doing a brief check at the Mayo Clinic's website, I don't seem to have the symptoms for RA, because the one place this pain does NOT occur is in my joints.  The joints I have that hurt are due to other, known problems.  (I have bad knees, and a diagnosed problem in my back).  All of these random pains are outside of the joints. 

Now, I wouldn't doubt that I'm developing arthritis... I do get stiff if I sit too long... but I think that would be of the osteo variety instead of the RA variety.  Or that stiffness could be muscular, and have nothing to do with my joints.  *shrugs*  All I know is it hurts, and that sucks.

Thanks for your concern, and the suggestion, but for now, it doesn't seem like that's something to worry about.

Eric Storm

My doctor and I have already ruled out fibromyalgia, because I don't have any of the sensitive trigger spots that seem to be universal with fibromyalgia patients. 

Never heard of the other one, but a quick look at the Mayo Clinic's website (the Mustard Clinic's page was down... ), doesn't show it to be a match, either.  It talks about muscular pain that doesn't go away, or worsens.  These pains do not feel muscular, and also, they don't linger.  They last for hours... maybe up to a day, then vanish as rapidly and randomly as they appeared.  The pain is not "knot-like", it is either "pin-prick-like", "ring-like" (if it happens in one of my fingers), or just a general small area of pain... but not in the sense of a knot: if I press on the area, I don't feel any tightness.

This is why I'm pretty sure the pain is neural: it just doesn't fit the basic concepts of actual "physical" pain... unless it is referred pain, but given that the pains happen all over my body, it would be a pretty weird case of referred pain.

Most doctors would probably just tell me to take some Tylenol and go on with things.  I'd accept that advice... except that Tylenol doesn't work on me.    (Neither do most other painkillers... up to and including morphine...)

Eric Storm

I had a back problem diagnosed through an x-ray.  (What the hell they could tell by x-ray, I have no idea... I couldn't tell anything from it...)  The conclusion from the radiologist was that the problem was not serious enough for further effort at this time.

I wouldn't know about being drunk... alcohol makes me sick long before I could get drunk, so...

Eric Storm

Eric Storm wrote:

I had a back problem diagnosed through an x-ray.  (What the hell they could tell by x-ray, I have no idea... I couldn't tell anything from it...)  The conclusion from the radiologist was that the problem was not serious enough for further effort at this time.

I wouldn't know about being drunk... alcohol makes me sick long before I could get drunk, so...

Eric Storm

Seems to me you need to speak to a neurologist. They're going to want an MRI. From that they will be able to get a better idea if your spinal nerve bundle is being impacted by the intervertebral disks between your vertebra impinging.

I have the problem with the disks in my lower spine doing this to me. The pain when it's bad, and I mean level 9 out of 10 bad which is simply not common, causes pain across the right half of my groin and the right half of my balls feel like someone is crushing them, my left leg ends up with sciatic pain down the leg/knee/toes (pain in the toes coming from the spine sucks by the way), and my right side feels like a muscle is being torn over an area of a foot in length. All that, and the surgeon told me they are likely to make it worse if they operate... second opinion coming soon. It's a problem I've had since I was about 13 so I am somewhat accustomed to it.

As to the drunk thing, it was for comparison to how the pain meds can provide no relief and still have effects.

Eric, no need to be curd and skippy about it. If one medic can´t find the reason may be another can. That´s called looking for a second, or third, or twentieth opinion if necessary. Frequently it´s difficult to get the right diagnosis, as doctors are people and they think about illnesses or conditions they either have seen before, or at least remember from their studies. As for insurance, well, yep, that´s a difficult one. You can either keep researching the stuff yourself and then just go and ask your doctor for a diagnostic exam to confirm, or go to a good specialist in the field you think your pain could be caused by (even if you have to pay for the consult, as consults are cheap compared to actual clinical exams) for his/her opinion on the subject. But it all depends on how much does the pain bother you and on you doing a lot of research to at least know which specialist to go to.

As for diabetic neuropathy, that was just an example of a possible illness that can cause this. Neuropathy can have various reasons, and sometimes be idiopathic all together (as in unknown reasons). But if you at least know that the cause is nerve degeneration (neuropathy), then there are some paliative treatments that may help at least in some cases.

Finally, even without knowing the direct cause, sometimes acupuncture (if you can actually fin a bonafide good acuptucture specialist) can help. It has certainly helped my god mother and her husband with their pains. Also I remember suggesting cannabidiol or other non narcotic cannabis extracts, which have also been known to help with chronic pain.

What I mean to tell, is that I know and have had family members deal with chronic diseases and pains. Sometimes the search for a solution may take years, even decades, sometimes you can´t find anything, but if you start now (of course according to what´s possible for you), the sooner you may finally find if not a cure, at least something that may help, if it exists. Otherwise untreated chronic conditions tend to get worse, not better with time. So...  you decide. I´m just trying to float some suggestions of what has helped people I know with chronic pains of your sort. But you are the one that knows best his symptoms and what you have already done and what you actually haven´t tried, so take my ideas as you wish. I´m just trying to help Eric.

Last edited by Augur (2019-05-20 19:12:48)

Having been through MRI more times than I care to mention, all I can say is, yeah, little tubey things you have to lay still in and hold your breath suck. A lot.

Sorry.

Eric my wife has severe pain from many sources. I have good insurance but it also does not cover the new cd whatever oil although I have bought it for her for 3-4 months roughly 155 a month. Linda has been caught in the political opiod wars. do not get me started. she no longer takes the oil as the results did not seem effective, just like almost every thing we have tried.

Last edited by ChiefRock (2019-05-21 07:18:01)

155 is a bite out of a budget but Lindas pain meds have been reduced from 100mcg fentanol to 25 with nothing else to combat pain She is not on hospice and her doctors are operating on laws that can send them to prison. Pisses me off because the deaths they quote are from abuse and my wife has had this script for 10 years and always follows rules exactly

So-- I have been reading, and exhausting 4-5 other sites I read from. Sci fi and erotica (I do not discriminate) I have exhausted my sources. anything new coming up????

Thanks Eric

Maybe, but my basic policy for most stories is to release the chapter as soon as it gets back from reviewers and has gone through its final proofread.

I still, even after going back and reading the relevant portion of this thread, do not know why I never posted this chapter.  *shrugs*

Eric Storm