abaddon.pale
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edjueinnest wrote:good story hope to read more from this writer soon
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Thank you, thank you, thank you..
:-) I live for the feedback.
i'm currently writing the next Chapter of Cabal. Papa's love should come out from under Permium status soon.
if there is anything in particular you like about the story let me know. so I can focus more on it /
have a great day.
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Flyingmark
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Will it be finished?
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Dadrepus
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Wow, this was really well done. Nothing offended me, story was intriguing, well thought out. Can't wait for the next chapter. How soon?
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Raincheck
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I just discovered the story of "Cabal" and I have to say it's one of the best stories I've read anywhere. You have an impressive imagination and the twists and turns were electrifying. I'm very saddened that nothing has been added to it since 2020. Is there somewhere else that has the completed story?
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abaddon.pale
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Raincheck wrote:I just discovered the story of "Cabal" and I have to say it's one of the best stories I've read anywhere. You have an impressive imagination and the twists and turns were electrifying. I'm very saddened that nothing has been added to it since 2020. Is there somewhere else that has the completed story?
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Thank you. Sadly, I have been working on and off on the next chapter well next few actualy for a few years. Life got in the way and writing had to take a back seat to a lot of other stuff. But in short, I sort of wrote myself into a Martinesq Meranese Knot and took me a while to figure my way out of it.
I just posted the next chapter. "Catharsis" tonight. It was a difficult chapter to write. Mainly because of where/when it takes place. In short when writing a chapter I like to focus on one or two key points of plot I want to address, maybe 10-20% world building and descriptive detail, and don’t show anything that is not relevant to the story, in service of the plot, or well Hot. However this first full day of our MC in his new environment lets say. Everything was new and interesting, way to much for him to think about etc. there is a LOT of plot and world building here, but I did manage to work in some hotness in the beginning middle and end of the chapter. The bit in the middle is sort of a flash forward so that there is not 20 pages of no sex to bore the crap out of readers who are not here for the story.
Let me know if you think the flash forward/flash back doesn’t work.. I kind of like after re-reading a bunch of times. It’s like a tease of whats to come.
The next chapters will be: First Time Again ( tentative title ): Penny Home Front: Mark Therapy: Mark Family Matters: Mark Cry for Help: Mark
And this should rap up act II
Planned titles and plots for Act III are well VERY tentative but are as follows:
Wicked Bitch: Penelope Flight of Fancy: Mark The kindness of Strangers: Mark New Daddy: Mark Making Music: Mark Saving Grace: Mark.
This is the plan end of the first book. Given what I have written so far has deviated a lot from my original outline. As new ideas spring to mind as I write.
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abaddon.pale
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**Author’s Notes**
Ok, so yea. As I mentioned in my Notes on Chapter 9 in the synopsis, after a re-listen ( I like to use Text to Speech engines to review and edit my writing while I am working on it ). I noticed last week that I horribly mischaracterized the girls ( Penny, Andy and Cassy ) in the 1939 timeline. Especially Cassandra ( Cassy ), at this point in the story she should be six years old, and she reads as more of a two to three year old. There are also some issues with Andromeda and Penelope but much less as neither of them get a lot of Dialog.
Further, in doing some research on how to handle this I have reviewed a lot of the earlyer chapters and realized there are some things I forgot. And some things I have planned that really impact this. So Plan of Action:
#1 I am going to rewrite the “Forbidden Fruit section of Chapter 9 to portray Cassy a bit more age appropriately for a six year old. The overall what happens, and it’s affect on Mark / Frank will not change, but Cassy should be a more active player in the scene. A few more minor edits to the “Tiny Dancers section as well but not a major re-write.
#2 I am going to do a full Edit Pass on Chapters 1 – 9, in doing some reviews I’ve noticed a lot of minor ( un-intentional ) errors in grammar and spelling. Those edits will not be worth a re-read, the story of those chapters will not change. But I’d like to make it as clean as possible.
#3 I will then get back to writing Chapter 10, now called “Prayers , a 9 year old Penny focused chapter, where we find out more about what happened between the end of October 1938 and August of 1939, up to and including Penny’s POV on Mark’s first few days in Franks body. Chapter 11 will continue Mark’s story. Abaddon.
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abaddon.pale
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Just completed an updated version of Chapter Nine: Catharsis.
While I fixed a lot of spelling and grammar issues, the main thing was a correction to a number of continuity issues. ( such as Mark and Penelope’s middle names being wrong ). But the number one issue that is now fixed is the Characterization of Cassandra who is six years old in August of 1939. In the original version of this chapter, she read like a 2-3 year old. The dialog was all wrong.
Cassandra is very important to later parts of the story so I could not just age her younger. It was better to just re-write the two sections featuring her to make her more developmentally appropriate for he age. E.g. few miss pronunciations of words, understanding that words can have multiple meanings, and in general acting like a little adult, but maintaining the child like innocence.
Over the next week or two I am going to do a “Full Edit” pass on all the preceding chapters. I do not plan to alter the earlyer story in any way, but I do want to correct any continuity errors, and ill fix any spelling or grammar issues I find along the way.
THEN I will get back to writing Chapter 10: Prayers, a Penny focused chapter. As stated previously Mark’s story continues in Chapter 11: Home Front.
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Dadrepus
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Can't wait. I love stories with a few twists and turns. You have me enthralled.
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abaddon.pale
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Thanks Dadrepus, I truly apricate the feedback and comment.
I just posted Chapter 10, for the most part it's a Re-telling +++ of the events from Chapter 9 but from Penny's point of view. Her experiences overlap with Mark's but there is a lot more going on in her life than Mark is aware of .. I hope you like it.
PS it's PREM for 30 days.
I will be posting all future chapters in this manner, hopefully to help out the site.
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abaddon.pale
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Author Note: I just posted an Update to Chapter 3
Not worth a re-read if you have already read it.
Just fixing a continuity issue. and a bunch of spelling mistakes.
the overall content has not changed. R. Cotton is a tiny bit more representable, and the one reference to Gracie's mother is removed because she would have already passed away by OCT of 1938
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Alex_Rider
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Just Read the whole story in one go, I love it so far hopefully there will be more chapters soon
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abaddon.pale
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Alex_Rider wrote:Just Read the whole story in one go, I love it so far hopefully there will be more chapters soon
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THANK YOU, for the feedback,
The next two chapters are nearly ready to publish, and currently working on the one after that.
C11: Eyes of the Oracle, should post for PRIM later this week. C12: Home Front, should post to PRIM about two weeks after. C13: Therapy, TBD
P.S. is there anything in particular you like or dislike about the story so far.
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Alex_Rider
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abaddon.pale wrote:P.S. is there anything in particular you like or dislike about the story so far.
If I had to pin it down, I'd say I really like the esoteric and mystic setting of the story. But I sometimes get a little bit confused with the timeline.
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abaddon.pale
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Alex_Rider wrote:abaddon.pale wrote:P.S. is there anything in particular you like or dislike about the story so far.
If I had to pin it down, I'd say I really like the esoteric and mystic setting of the story. But I sometimes get a little bit confused with the timeline.
Thanks, and the setting is also one of my favorite aspects, it has elements of a lot of my favorite stories, but is also unique unto itself.
as for the Timelines
there are two main ones.
Primary Timeline takes place in Mid-September of 1964 when Mark Meet's ZeeAl for the first time.
Flash Back Timeline(s) we first flash back to 1938 in a Penelope memory, she is sharing via conversation with her sister, but we see as we are there. Then in Papa's love, Mark is sent back in time ( is mind,soul,power...etc but not his body ) into Frank Whitemore's body. this is at the end of august 1939.
all other time shifts are just flash forward backwards a few hours. "Thinking About" stuff sort of things, those are really mostly done to break up the narrative, in sections at I felt were getting a bit dry, or to add a sort of narrative punctuation.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback. I hope you will enjoy the new chapters as they get released.
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HypnoBruce
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I want to share that I LOVE the way you're using Cassie as the "sage" who already knows the future. I hope you plan for Mark and Cassie to get together in 1964.
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abaddon.pale
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HypnoBruce wrote:I want to share that I LOVE the way you're using Cassie as the "sage" who already knows the future. I hope you plan for Mark and Cassie to get together in 1964.
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Thanks HypnoBruce,
I have really enjoyed writing Cassie, I had always planned for her to be psychic, as she is named for the Cassandra of Greek legend. However after I did a bit of a re-write of her when I did an edit to the chapter Catharsis a while back, I found her personality to be kind of fun. The reason for the rewrite was I originally wrote her much younger than 6, while stating the ages was six, I treated her as more of a 2-3 year old in dialog. so I did a bunch of psychology research to try to make her dialog more apt.
So once "Mark's Love" activated her power, she became a sexy little anacronym, havening knowledge and skills from her future selves, and seeing branching paths of possible fates at all time. but in the 39 time line, her young mind has difficulty making senses of everting. Yes you will see her again in Chapter 13: Therapy and beyond.
Needless to say she is one of my favorite characters now. Her and Gracie are the most fun to write.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Saran
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abaddon.pale wrote:So once "Mark's Love" activated her power, she became a sexy little anacronym, havening knowledge and skills from her future selves, and seeing branching paths of possible fates at all time. but in the 39 time line, her young mind has difficulty making senses of everting. Yes you will see her again in Chapter 13: Therapy and beyond.
Needless to say she is one of my favorite characters now. Her and Gracie are the most fun to write.
Thanks again for the feedback.
[Tease begin]
How DARE you slight poor pen-pen that way!!! She's your favorite. I KNOW She is.
[tease end]
I've really enjoyed the story so far and I'm really excited to see more come out of this. Cassie really is a fun character and I look forward to a lot more interaction in the "present." I fear we are not going to see nearly enough of Gracie for a long while. I really like her character too, though I'm really looking forward to Heather when he can finally save her.
::Looks over at abaddon:: What? I didn't give anything away?
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abaddon.pale
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Saran wrote:abaddon.pale wrote:So once "Mark's Love" activated her power, she became a sexy little anacronym, havening knowledge and skills from her future selves, and seeing branching paths of possible fates at all time. but in the 39 time line, her young mind has difficulty making senses of everting. Yes you will see her again in Chapter 13: Therapy and beyond.
Needless to say she is one of my favorite characters now. Her and Gracie are the most fun to write.
Thanks again for the feedback.
[Tease begin]
How DARE you slight poor pen-pen that way!!! She's your favorite. I KNOW She is.
[tease end]
I've really enjoyed the story so far and I'm really excited to see more come out of this. Cassie really is a fun character and I look forward to a lot more interaction in the "present." I fear we are not going to see nearly enough of Gracie for a long while. I really like her character too, though I'm really looking forward to Heather when he can finally save her.
::Looks over at abaddon:: What? I didn't give anything away?
Nope your fine.
Yea I like each of the main girls. well all of them really. Each has her own "Thing" that makes her fun to write. Cassie just got real fun to write after I re-vamped her personality, then mixed in prescience. I don't know if I could even rank them in order of preference. Yes Gracie and Trisha will be back, but yes it may be a while. Hent, the last chapter in this book will be called "Saving Grace"
But I have plans for book 2 and book three, so we will get a lot more. AND chapters 8-12 may not be the only "Quantum Leaping" Mark dose in the series. He has some unfinished business in 39 AND... well we will just have to wait and see. Nothing is set in stone until I publish it on MWP ...
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Dadrepus
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Good chapter, can’t wait for another. Very few spelling/grammar errors but something is odd about the size of the text. It kept changing throughout the chapter. Example: The last 4 lines in the chapter are smaller font size than the previous lines. Was this done on purpose? Or is something wrong with the formatting?
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Dadrepus
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Oh, I forgot to mention that the text will not wrap like normal when trying to enlarge the text. I normally read these stories by clicking on the button that allows me to read the text in a new window. I do not download. But with this chapter, enlarging the text just takes the edges off the page and I lose text. Most of the time doing this has the text wrap but not here.
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Eric Storm
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1. You should not bring formatting issues up in the forum, you should contact me directly. Sometimes formatting issues are not the author's responsibility, and you bugging them will just confuse them. I'm used to being confused.
2. Since you DID bring it up, do you have these problems in all chapters of this story, or just the most recent chapter?
Checking the HTML, I can see potential causes of the problem, but I didn't dig deep enough to figure out for sure, nor do I know if there is an easy fix. Abaddon Pale is apparently using software that writes directly to HTML format (as opposed to a word processing format), and those programs often do a VERY poor job of handling formatting.
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abaddon.pale
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Eric Storm wrote:1. You should not bring formatting issues up in the forum, you should contact me directly. Sometimes formatting issues are not the author's responsibility, and you bugging them will just confuse them. I'm used to being confused.
2. Since you DID bring it up, do you have these problems in all chapters of this story, or just the most recent chapter?
Checking the HTML, I can see potential causes of the problem, but I didn't dig deep enough to figure out for sure, nor do I know if there is an easy fix. Abaddon Pale is apparently using software that writes directly to HTML format (as opposed to a word processing format), and those programs often do a VERY poor job of handling formatting.
Eric Storm
Thanks to both of you guys for the feedback.
I use Scrivener to write, and compile the document to HTML. . but I do proof in Natural Reader and Pro writing aid. so there is a lot of copy/past back and forth. It's possible a "Hard Text" setting got copied back to the document.. I'll check and reformat, re-format and upload if necessary.
Again thanks for the feedback... it really encourages me to keep writing.
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Sam Spayed
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This is an incredible story that had me on the edge of my seat for more than one reason. It is hard and challenging and deeply immersive.
It could do with proof-reading, perhaps the use of a grammar-checker such as Grammarly to weed out those homophones - site/sight etc - which a spell-checker can't find. There are some paragraphs that I felt could be in a better order for the flow of the story. But it is probably difficult to find a competent editor for a story with this content.
The world-building is great, the characters varied and finely drawn. The mythology is unique, fascinating and detailed. I want more.
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abaddon.pale
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Sam Spayed wrote:This is an incredible story that had me on the edge of my seat for more than one reason. It is hard and challenging and deeply immersive.
It could do with proof-reading, perhaps the use of a grammar-checker such as Grammarly to weed out those homophones - site/sight etc - which a spell-checker can't find. There are some paragraphs that I felt could be in a better order for the flow of the story. But it is probably difficult to find a competent editor for a story with this content.
The world-building is great, the characters varied and finely drawn. The mythology is unique, fascinating and detailed. I want more.
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Sam Spayed.
THANK YOU.. that's the best bit of feedback I have gotten in quite a while.
And I am glad you are enjoying the story.
My Edit process is as follows.
I draft each chapter in Scrivener ( my main writing tool ) I then use an AI Text to Speech engine "Natural Reader" to have it read back to me. This lets me clean up a lot of flow issues, as well as tighten up my writing. Next I run it tough Pro Writing Aid to try and find as many Grammar, Spelling etc issues as I can. I then alternate between Natrual Reader and Pro Writing aid multiple times until I have found all the issues I can.
I DO.. sometimes leave a bit of choppy writing in place when it's in Dialog and that's just how the person talking talks.
Lastly I do have a few friends who proof each chapter for me looking for issues I have missed.
All in all I correct a crap ton of errors but a few always get though. Spelling is a challange for me, always has been.
THANK YOU THANK YOU TANK YOU againf or takeing the time to leave feedback. I would write a lot more if folks would leave more feedback.
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SLT
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Okay I just finished re-reading chapter one and wow it just kicks down the door with rich visuals from the very first sentence and doesn’t let up. I think the thing that struck me most about this Chapter was the attentiveness to the senses, the descriptions of sounds, touch (not just the sexy stuff, but the vibrations from the gravel on the road), and visuals all immediately physically grounded me in the world of the story. I don’t really have anything more to say about the writing, I thought it was great.
I think it was structured really well too, By the time I had finished the chapter I had a good sense of the mechanics of the world and a good enough sense of what I was in for to understand if I wanted to go further, but not so much that I wasn't curious about what was coming up next. It was paced well, and It introduced the story really well..what more could one want?
I can’t say that I relate to the characters, but I don't think this was supposed to be that kind of party anyway. I can say I had fun yelling at Mark in my head, kinda like yelling at a movie or tv show (like, dude do not trust that bitch she is clearly a serial killer or some shit!). It overall felt really pulpy and stylized, kinda like an 80’s action flick kinda feel and i’m on board for it.
The sex was…..hot I suppose but I come to Wolf pub for the articles…so. Trisha is, hot, but frankly kinda scary, like to the point where i’ve theorized that magic must be involved because either Mark is more of a sheltered Christian gentleman than I thought, or He is awful at knowing crazy when he sees it lol.
‘Z’ seems like he’s going to be a fun creep, and I legit Loled when he told Mark what the cure was…because of course that's the kind of rules Z abides lol. I can’t wait to meet the rest of his debauched minions!
All and all my feedback is that I don't feel qualified to do much more than fan out about it, it’s really very fun, really very funny, and really very good IMO.
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